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Location: ponce inlet, florida | yea i thought about the parts, but there are 5 dealers very close to my marina, as well as certified suzuki techs...i have yamaha fuel management, so i will have to change out the gauges....but doing more research on the zukes and its coming out positive...the 300 zukes weigh roughly the same as the yami 250's and the zukes lower unit produces less drag through the water. |
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Location: Ocean Isle Beach, NC | I have a 31 Contender with twin DF250 Suzukis. My performance is very similar to Yamaha F250s as has been stated. I top end at 54 mph. (I may be a bit overpropped, and if I changed my pitch, I believe I would see 56 mph) My performance is worse when the weather gets warm but this is apparently true of many outboard motors. My engines have performed very well and I recommend them. The only complaint I have, is that the counter rotating motor seems to operate at a lower rpm than the starboard engine and cannot achieve quite as high a top end rpm for the same prop. This is a 200 to 300 rpm difference. I have been told by friends that their counter rotating motor because of more gearing has some slight (but lesser) differences as well.
I communicated with Fubar on this forum who was running a 31 Contender with 300 Suzukis. Although he had less than one hundred hours, he saw a topend of 59 mph with four blade props and was happy with the performance.
The positives that I see with Suzukis over Yamahas are that the Zukes have a timing chain which is less likely to catastrophically fail compared to the timing belt of the Yamahas. The Suzukis have a beefier lower unit which should hold up well and allows the turning of 16 inch props which in my situation leads to better mid range fuel economy. Both are fine outboard motors. If I were to get a 31T Contender, I would consider 300 Verados for their speed, since the Verados seem to be a good product as well. |
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Location: N Florida | warmpinkcenter - 5/11/2008 1:25 PM
i looked at yamahas website just to confirm...and they have 200, 250, and 350 four strokes...in hpdi they show only the 200 hpdi on their site....i wonder if they dc'd the 300 hpdi???......
the 350s are overpowered for my 31 contender....i think the zuke 300's have a niche...
really thinkin hard about the zuke 300's...does anyone have anything negetive based on personal expereince ( not heresay or their cousins second wife daughter in law) about these zukes?
We had twin DF250's on a boat- GREAT MOTORS
We HAVE Tripple DF300's on a boat now - GREAT MOTORS
We have around 150 hours, no issues, very happy. While I really like the Yamaha F250 and it is great motor, I don't think it stacks up against the DF300....reasons...first you get mor ponies....F250 needs 89 oct...DF300 runs on the cheap stuff. DF300 uses fly by wire and the NEMA gauges are unbelieveable...you can monitor anything on your boat with them and install them quicly...we have 5 on our boat. Again, neither motor is a bad choice...but for us the DF300 was a better choice. I don't know what a F250 uses at WOT but a loaded DF300 uses 25 GPH per motor, for comparisons sake. I would guess a DF300 is only 2-3 mph faster than a F250.
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Location: ponce inlet, florida | thx wildlines and kendall..you just strengthen my choice...the more i read and think about these motors the more i like them...i'm a die hard yami man....but i think the zukes have it one up on them when it comes to the 300.....man now i just have to get the accessories...i.e.fuel mgmt and accessories right....any advice?
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Location: N Florida | warmpinkcenter - 5/11/2008 6:03 PM
thx wildlines..you just strengthen my choice...what type of boat are you running the trip zukes on?
My brothers and I have a 36' Yellowfin.
I don't think you can make a bad choice on any 4 storke, good luck. |
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Location: miami | warmpinkcenter - 5/11/2008 6:03 PM
zukes have it one up on them when it comes to the 300.....man now i just have to get the accessories...i.e.fuel mgmt and accessories right....any advice?
WPC...... If you opt for the DF 300 & the Digital Gauge (Nema 2000) all the function are already come standard on the 4" gauges.
click on link to read more
http://store.brownspoint.com/suzuki_page_31.asp |
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Location: Carolina Beach, NC | I have the 31 with DF 250's as well and love them. I spin a 16x23 inch prop. I have had 3 pairs of yamahas and loved those as well, but the yams do not have the torque of the zukes. Just look at the size of the prop each motor spins. My contender is quick out of the hole and have hit 55.6 mph with 7 people on board (1/3 tank of fuel). I swear the zukes are more quiet as well. I would go with the zuke 300's without a second thought. |
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Location: Jupiter | I have the 300's on my 31. I can get 59 out of it with the eisenglass up and open array radar. So far they have been perfect. I can cruise at 2.0 MPG up to about 40 MPH before it drops off. They have tons of torque. I am going to start racking up some hours on mine in the next couple of months so stay tuned. |
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Location: Broadway/Snead's Ferry,NC | I was die hard Yamaha until a very poor experience with some HPDI's. That and the relatively weak F225 made me try Suzuki and I have been very satisfied. The bigger props give excellent low to mid range power and that is where I run my boat. I think the Yamaha four strokes are very good but they are a motor behind Suzuki in release dates (at least on the 250 and 300's) with their four strokes and that makes a difference depending on purchase dates. The price difference equates to a lot of gas....mine were nearly $4000 less for the pair vs F225's in 2005.
Contender may not look right without a Yam but even the factory saw what people were wanting and the trouble with HPDI's with no available F250 at first and now no F300 led to many boats leaving the factory with non Yamaha power.
Suzuki is a very good motor and I will be staying with them next time around. |
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL. | Fubar261 - 5/12/2008 12:54 PM
I have the 300's on my 31. I can get 59 out of it with the eisenglass up and open array radar. So far they have been perfect. I can cruise at 2.0 MPG up to about 40 MPH before it drops off. They have tons of torque. I am going to start racking up some hours on mine in the next couple of months so stay tuned.
What props are you using?
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Location: Cape Fear | Locally I'm aware of a 25 Contender that repowered from Yamahas to DF175 Suzukis and a 31 Contender that repowered from Yamahas to DF 250 Suzukis. Both seem to be very pleased. |
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Location: miami | 
click on the link
http://www.media.suzuki.com/marine/press07/documents/ronmitchell_hd...
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Location: San Diego | EODContender - 8/31/2007 9:53 AM No one has the set up because for some reason it just doesn't seem natural. Yamaha and Contneder go together like peanut butter and jelly. The Suzuki's just feel cheap. There is a reason for the sicker price being lower and its not because Suzuki wants to do you a favor. Ive heard some downright silly statements on this board, but this one is a CONTENDER for the winner  |
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