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| Bit the bullet today, bought a 2008 Sea Hunt Escape. Hoping that the weather cooperates here in VA tomorrow so that I can take it for a run. The boat has a 150Hp Yamaha 4 stroke. This is my first OB, hoping that I can get some advise on some things:
1. Do you need to fog the engine for winter storage? Dealer said they don't fog 4 strokes. Manual includes a fogging procedure.
2. Can I put an inexpensive hour meter on that motor, doesn't have to be in the dash, could be under the console or elsewhere, would like this for maint purposes.
3. Looking at the Yamaha manual, it says to break in under 2000 rpm for 1st hour, 3000 for 2nd and anything but prolonged WOT until 10 hrs. Dealer says it's OK to run it at any RPM (except WOT) as long as it varied. Who do I believe?
4. Dealer said I have to get the first service done by a yamaha service center, after that I can do it myself. Warranty requirement, yes or no.
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Location: Wilmington, DE | 1. I would go w/ the manual... but if motor has not been run may already be winterized.
2. not sure about hour meter but does not sound like a hard prject to do.
3. GO with the manual.a few extra hours to break in the motor correctly cannot hurt.
4. check manual about 1st service but is not a bad idea. They may be able to find problems, quirks during initial break in period and have them fixed before becomes major issue
a little preventive maintenance goes a long way.
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Location: S Fla | your best friend will be Andy at Shipyard Island - our resident auth Yam and merc dealer - email him at:
andyjr@shipyardisland.com
and ALWAYS believe the manual... They made the motor!
Edited by Glen E 1/5/2008 2:27 PM
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| Actaully they ran the boat with me this morning before I bought it, that's when I asked if it need to be fogged. They said no. I plan on using it possibly all winter. I assume that as long as I use it every few weeks it wouldn't need to be fogged. I guess I should learn to do it, wasn't hard to do on my I/O, probably easier on an OB, just not sure with the injection. Oh ya, one more thing, flush with muffs and run or use the hose connection. I usderstand that the hose connectin only flushes the block, not the lower unit, so I assume muffs would do a better job?
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Location: Youngsville, NC | There are several varieties of small hour meters that mount under the engine cowl and work by counting pulses through one of the engine wires. I know Yamaha makes one, since I bought one for one of my boats that did not have one (it was a little Honda engine and the yamaha meter worked fine on it). Was only $30-$40.
For the other questions, follow the manual as close as you can, will help later if you have a warrantee problem and not really too bad. Figure you can break the engine in completely (10 hrs?) in two nice days on the water.
As for fogging, not needed if you run it every couple of weeks, preferably while fishing, but on the earmuffs (or hose connection) would work as well.
Make sure you have a fuel water seperator (just a good idea in general to fight condensation and bad marina gas) and the 10 micron filters that yamahas like, reports here on them seem to show them as a bit fussier about their gas than Honda or Suzuki four strokes are.
If you use muffs, make sure they fit well. If you use the hose, read the manual to see if you can run the engine in gear or not, or even if you can run the engine (some brands do not need the engine running to use the hose, and recommend you don't).
Edited by shemstreet 1/5/2008 4:23 PM
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Location: Texas | How about the hour meter that comes with the Yamaha gauges.  |
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| Command link gauges have an hour meter. I thought they were std now but maybe not. They came with mine and I never asked or was asked about it.
How would you know when to service without an hour meter?
Manual says to use the hose attachment, as Glen said, they made the motor. |
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| you can buy an inexpensive one at west marine for 30 bucks. , It's nothing more than a clock that starts when the ignition is turned on |
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| I would follow the manual on all of the break-in procedures. High rpms for a SHORT period of time will actually help seat your new gaskets during the break-in.
I don't fog my 4 strk. Add Stabil to the fuel and run it through the motor with muffs for a few minutes. Only use the hose connector with the engine off. Every couple of weeks run the motor for a few and you should be good to go.
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| I got the standard analog gauges, no hour meter, I guess that was an option. Don't mind the gauges but would like an hour meter. I see that Yamaha has a mutlifunction digital tach that includes and hour meter, trim gauge and a few other functions. Might look into that to see if it's compatible. |
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| I have analog gauges with my 2007 suzies. They have an hour meter built into the tach with a system of flashes and corrosponding rpm needle movement. I would think yami has simmular. Have you read the handbook, or are you looking for something more? |
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| I'm sure there's no hour meter. Have one on my Crownline w/analog gauges, but none on this one. I guess that's one of the reasons I got a really good deal? |
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| I bought a hour meter at sears that they use on their tractors. Wire wraps around 1 plug wire and just hangs there. 2 years and 161 hours, works fine. George |
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Location: orlando madbeach, fl | The computer on the motor also logs the hours and a variety of other info, not sure what type of interface you would need to access this info but as mentioned Andy will be able to help you on this.
Just a quick thought. Not knocking proper maintenance or break in, but for what it is worth, these motors are sold all over the world and are used in all types of climates and conditions. This includes many third world countries, remote jungle areas and arctic type conditions. Do you think the native in the Amazon or the Eskimo in Alaska is performing regular scheduled maintenance or following the factory recommended break in period? They buy these motors and put them through all kinds of hell without ever removing the cowling or putting a flush hose on them. Lack of use is the worst thing for your motor. Run it and enjoy your boat as much as possible and it will perform for you for years. Congrats on the new vessel. |
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Location: Rhode Island, 26 Striper | I also got the one from sears, 5 yrs still works. Costs like $25. |
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Location: Shuswap Lake, BC | I have an 2007 F150 and the hour meter is in the Multi Function Tach go to the bottom and push the menu button I believe. It should be in your engine manual also.
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Location: Saugus, Ma. USA | potty dock - 1/5/2008 5:40 PM
you can buy an inexpensive one at west marine for 30 bucks. , It's nothing more than a clock that starts when the ignition is turned on
That is what I did to my boat. I would recommend testing out which wire is hot when the ignition is turned on, and then you can run it off that. I chose to run a few items off my ignition, so I used a relay to reduce the load on the ignition circuit. |
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Location: Portsmouth, VA. | Furry - 1/6/2008 3:34 PM
I have an 2007 F150 and the hour meter is in the Multi Function Tach go to the bottom and push the menu button I believe. It should be in your engine manual also.
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He doesn't have the digital gauges. His is analog.
I bought a marine hour meter from Bass Pro and mounted mine beside the steering wheel in the dash. I basically wired mine into the fuse panel to a circuit that was tied into the ignition. They come in either black or white. If you go this route, just remember that if the key is left on, the clock is ticking. It hasn't been an issue for me though. |
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Location: Maryland | I got similar advice from two dealers about break-in--they said variance is more important than absolute RPM. I also got the advice so run the motor once a month in lieu of fogging. Another mechanic suggested fogging only in an "if you really want to" kind of way, even if you lay it up for the winter, given that it's brand new. The most critical item seems to be the fuel stabilizer, on which I was given consistent advice. Just repeating advice I was given here--no harm in following the manual to the letter. You might also want to run some anti-freeze through your livewell and/or washdown pumps, or at least make sure there's no water in there when you park the boat. |
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